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410 transfr box into sammy any one??????

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 16:03    Post subject: 410 transfr box into sammy any one?????? Reply with quote

Hi,ive just got me a 410 transfer box to put onto my samurai and despite the face that it looks pretty straight forward to me , i thought id come on here and pick peoples brains,again Rolling Eyes

Anyway,anyone done it and what were the pitfalls????

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 17:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

straight swap Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 17:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liam why did you decide to swap your Samurai transfer box for the 410 transfer box?
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 18:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

it gives you lower gear ratios to maintain the power lost from putting on bigger wheels.

it also moves the handbrake up from the rear wheels to the gearbox.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

zocko wrote:
it gives you lower gear ratios to maintain the power lost from putting on bigger wheels.

it also moves the handbrake up from the rear wheels to the gearbox.


I remember you saying about putting a 410 box in but couldn't remember why it was advantageous, now I know  Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 22:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

zocko wrote:
it gives you lower gear ratios to maintain the power lost from putting on bigger wheels.

it also moves the handbrake up from the rear wheels to the gearbox.



what he said Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a way to tell the difference, still trying to find out what parts are orignal on my LJ80, i know the engine is not 797cc but the 970cc (classed as a 1ltr) which i think is the same engine as the SJ410.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 14:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it has original axles, itll be drum brakes front and rear. any help?
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 16:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlepersons,ive swapped mine this morning,took 50 minutes in and out,but,and i say but as i dont know , what are the physical differences between the two transfer cases when looking at them from the outside??

I ask as although there is a marked improvement in forward motion in my sammy,i am not sure if it is down to the fact that we greased up all the props before putting them back in so everything moves as free as it should.

The difference is very noticeable and it no longer feels as though im driving with my foot on the brakes!!

However,i never touched the handbrake,it is still on the rear axle ,i was informed that it was a 410 from a bloke that i bought other stuff from and had no issues with .

Do you have to move the handbrake  or have i had my rectum felt a little bit Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 17:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright Liam, I don't know if they're all like it but the transfer box on my SJ410 has a drum brake on the back end of it which is the cars handbrake.

This picture is a bit poo, but I think you can see what I mean.

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 18:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideal_dog wrote:
Alright Liam, I don't know if they're all like it but the transfer box on my SJ410 has a drum brake on the back end of it which is the cars handbrake.

This picture is a bit poo, but I think you can see what I mean.



Ahh it seems as though i have had my ass tickled as mine does not look like that,it looks identical to the one i took off Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

Oh well its definately better than what was on there so i cant grumble!!!!!!  

Ill do some more homework and see if they all look like yours and if they do ill be getting me one of them Rolling Eyes  

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 18:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

all 410's have the handbrake on the back of the t/fer case.

if you need one, ill sell you one lol

£850 with the rest of the car free and ill even deliver it to you

you could get a few quid back for the bits you dont need
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 18:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

zocko wrote:
all 410's have the handbrake on the back of the t/fer case.

if you need one, ill sell you one lol

£850 with the rest of the car free and ill even deliver it to you

you could get a few quid back for the bits you dont need


DOH Shocked

Oh well never mind,i only paid peanuts for it so ill flog my old one off and then buy a proper one Laughing  Laughing  

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 18:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

my father in law has got crawler gears in his sammy and it is amazing 1st gear it will climb a mountain on tickover (seriously) and 3rd low is where the old 1st low was it really is amazing Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 22:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

me and the wife wrote:
my father in law has got crawler gears in his sammy and it is amazing 1st gear it will climb a mountain on tickover (seriously) and 3rd low is where the old 1st low was it really is amazing Twisted Evil


well as it happens im gonna strip one of these 413 boxes and get it welded up into a rock lobster,may take a while but the box is spare and in the garage Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil
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