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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 0:30 Post subject: DaiRees' Samurai |
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Well here's my toy,
She's a 1992 Samurai Sport, was already fitted with a Weber carb conversion when I bought it 2 years ago, and since then I've fitted AT's , then MT's , a CB, spots, and welded in about a 2 square metres of steel to repair all the rot, but other than that she's totally standard (for the time being ). Awesome machines, frequently embarreses solihul products and various other machines.
Potential mods. 2-3" spring lift, rear locker, maybe a lower ratio transfer box, still keep it looking totally standard 8)
Hmmmm, I'm not allowed to post my images, guess you'll have to wait folks! |
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Richie ***
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Poole
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:13 Post subject: |
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Any pictures - problems with your webber conversion Do you know which model Weber you have and wether it was rejetted
Richie |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:44 Post subject: |
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Hi Richie,
Yeah the Weber can be a bit pants off road, she doesn't like climbing very steep hills at lowish revs, dies out (you have to use the "point and squirt method" ), and it tends to cut out if your G forces hit zero or less . In fact it cut out on landing in the pic that's my avatar (also broke a t-box mount ). There is a mod to cure this which involves welding up one area in the carb and drilling a hole somehere else, but I havent grown balls big enough to try this yet.
On the road it's awesome! 8)
Was looking for the model number the other day but couldn't find it. The weber was already fitted when I got the car, I hadn't even realised . Was checking through the docs that the seller gave me and found a receipt for £392, went and checked, woohoo , the seller hadn't even mentioned it. I only paid £800 for the car with brand new T&T, 4 brand new sports tyres on alloys (which are for sale by the way - check ebay member ID MTR2001, Alloys with sports tyres, Steel 8 spokes with ATs, and a tow bar 8) ) and a £400 carb, so I reckon the rest of the zook must have cost me about £50 8) .
Yes I will post pics, but new members aren't allowed to for 7 days, so see you here this time next week ! |
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redneck ***
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Weymouth, Dorset
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 13:23 Post subject: Re: DaiRees' Samurai |
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DaiRees wrote: |
Well here's my toy,
Awesome machines, frequently embarreses solihul products and various other machines.
Hmmmm, I'm not allowed to post my images, guess you'll have to wait folks! |
Totally agree about embarassing L/R's. I trial my Zuke which is mechanically standard and it easilly beats standard 90's etc, the only time it comes second best to L/R's is in a cross axle situation where a 90 on coils has more articulation than my Zuke on leaf springs or if the L/R has lockers (but they're then in a different class to the zuke anyway )
Apparently an SPOA (spring perch over axle) conversion, gives the suspension more articulation as well as more lift so that's in the plans for the future.
From your avatar it looks like you have a nice Zuke there 8) look forward to the bigger pictures _________________ Suzuki now gone, replaced by Pajero's |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 14:26 Post subject: Re: DaiRees' Samurai |
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redneck wrote: |
Apparently an SPOA (spring perch over axle) conversion, gives the suspension more articulation as well as more lift so that's in the plans for the future. |
True, but you'll kill the springs if you try to do it with standard ones. You'll need uprated springs and a tramp bar to go SPOA. I don't fancy it meself. |
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Richie ***
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Poole
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 14:45 Post subject: |
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Why will it kill the springs ? Same weight ect. I know your supposed to drop the bump stops to stop them flexing to far the wrong way and the anti tramp bar. But as long as you cover these things should be OK should'nt it
Time will tell if I ever finish it
Anyway springs are replacable and had to go spoa to clear sump |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 17:13 Post subject: |
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It's something to do with the way the forces act on the springs, they wrap and end up looking like an "S" |
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redneck ***
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Weymouth, Dorset
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 17:21 Post subject: |
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DaiRees wrote: |
It's something to do with the way the forces act on the springs, they wrap and end up looking like an "S" |
Now you mention it, I can see it having that effect
I must admit I am in two minds about the SPOA because the more parts I can keep standard on my zuke the easier it is for fixing it when it breaks.
I do give it some grief
Will have to weigh up the pros and cons _________________ Suzuki now gone, replaced by Pajero's |
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Richie ***
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Poole
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 18:58 Post subject: |
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Must be me being thick but I cant see the axle being above or below the spring creating any different forces as long as the pearch is no higher than the original
Plenty of vehicles are made this this way anyway.
Only one way to find out, as I said had no choice as sump was too low. And it is a project vehicle so experimenting is what its all about
How about the rascal spring lift for yours Redneck ? We used this method on the Rascal pickup to level it out. It is supposed to give 2" on a std jeep. Plus If you were unfortunate enough to break a spring you can just split the replacement pack and reinsert the rascal spring. |
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redneck ***
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Weymouth, Dorset
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 20:07 Post subject: |
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Richie wrote: |
Must be me being thick but I cant see the axle being above or below the spring creating any different forces as long as the pearch is no higher than the original
Plenty of vehicles are made this this way anyway.
Only one way to find out, as I said had no choice as sump was too low. And it is a project vehicle so experimenting is what its all about
How about the rascal spring lift for yours Redneck ? We used this method on the Rascal pickup to level it out. It is supposed to give 2" on a std jeep. Plus If you were unfortunate enough to break a spring you can just split the replacement pack and reinsert the rascal spring. |
It's not particularly lift i'm after, a little bit maybe (too much can be a real disadvantage on some of the side slopes on a trial ) it's more articulation that i want. I thought an SPOA might be the best way of achieving this but i'm not sure
Any ideas _________________ Suzuki now gone, replaced by Pajero's |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 21:04 Post subject: |
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redneck wrote: |
it's more articulation that i want. I thought an SPOA might be the best way of achieving this but i'm not sure
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How about D-Flex type shackles?, allows the axle to drop. That's what I'm doing for. +2" extending shckles on the reas with standard springs, then get another set of rear springs up front 'cos they have more curve than the front ones. You have to split the spring packs and use the top leaf of the front spring, then pretty much mix and match the rest... |
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redneck ***
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Weymouth, Dorset
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 22:10 Post subject: |
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I've read reports of D-flex type shackles digging in to the ground when extreme off roading, as it is the standard shackles dig in with some of the stuff I do. I've got 2" extension shackles that i haven't fitted for that reason too. _________________ Suzuki now gone, replaced by Pajero's |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 22:23 Post subject: |
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Yeah that's right. I'm only going to put the d-flex on the back for now. Then it shouldn't be a problem (unless you reverse a lot ).
I wouldn't use extended shackes on the front anyway, ruins what little handling zooks have
I'd really like to go for a "proper" 3" spring lift kit, but I ain't got that kinda money to spend. Budget lifts 'r' us |
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redneck ***
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Weymouth, Dorset
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 17:29 Post subject: |
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"D flexes" on the back only, now that's an idea _________________ Suzuki now gone, replaced by Pajero's |
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DaiRees ****
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales (God's Country!)
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 18:19 Post subject: |
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Right a week has passed, so here's my baby
More in the garage..... 8) _________________
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